Its a combined blessing and burden to have an unaspected planet. The Universe took care of you. I dont know what the activation of the IC has in store for me but Im very happy that this transit is happening this year, at this time of the yearafter the activation of my Vertex by Mars in Aries, and at the time when Im ready to take the plunge in 2021. Isolation is the least Im concerned actually. Saturn conjunct the south node in synastry can indicate that you have to overcome some challenges together. What happened when Saturn transited your nadir or 4th house? It is not going to be easy at all. And the event happened when I was in the womb. Because you have such vague notions streaming through your mind, it will likely take you some time to create or locate the proper venues to shape and bring them to life. About 18 months ago I had transit Saturn conjunct my Midheaven (opposite IC): on the day that the aspect was exact, I lost my job due to covid. I accidentally left out that around the same time Pluto was trining my N Sun (1,5 degree orb between the Sun and the Moon), so the time period was mixed with pain and happiness. It looks as if you have been climbing the mountain for a long time and finally you can reach the peak. Oh yeah! Again, there is so much fear expressed in some posts. In 2021 Im taking the first practical step towards rebuilding my life and this time the structure will be as solid as a rock. Does anyone know what to expect when both Saturn and Pluto simultaneously transit IC? Im in my 40s too. I knew nobody where I lived and was very lonely. Hi Jamie, could Saturn transiting opposite the I.C also indicate birth? You will have some important duties and responsibilities to attend to which may involve one of your parents. I recommend you examine Saturn sun people Look at celebrities with it Read about it I have Saturn square the sun with moon scorpio and Saturn conjunct the moon. When Pluto transited my N Moon in conjunction (Scorpio Moon), I was young but I had MAJOR changes in my domestic life. What a year 2004/05 Im having NN return again in 2022. Divine timing . Pholus Conjunct the IC The IC is one's childhood home. Im scared anyway. There are typos in Elsas article on the 4th. It was the beginning of a new phase of our family and, fortunately, light as my 4H is 27* Taurus with lots of Gemini and a Gemini Mars. When Saturn transits the nadir you may want to go home. If there is something to be shedded, be my guest. I wondered as a child why everyone hides their emotional selves. Its like the planet is free to wander about the wheel, and the native is free to express the entire SCOPE of the planet due to its lack of binding aspects to other planets. It is possible that circumstances will occur that force a major review of your goals and where you are heading with your career. My Saturn-IC conjunction comes at the right time, Im not complaining because I surrendered to the universe and have done the hard work. Juno must give me a good not so Saturnian/Capricornian husband. Talk about crisis at home and feeling lonely! The cycle is obvious. I just switched from sidereal to tropical. Saturn symbolises the structures in our lives such as career, stability, family and the 'old ways'. I think Jupiter is the teacher / mentor; Saturn is more a discipline. I hope so. They started worrying me towards the end of 2019 when I knew too much to not be rattled, and Im not getting younger, Im 51 now but people say Im young which I dont like. During their stay in the hospital, they began to believe that it was necessary for one of them to die, and after much discussion, Jennifer agreed to be the sacrifice. . Yet if you research those with true unaspected planets, you find, like the Queen example, the person has the opportunity to become the epitome of that planet and it can rule their life hardly unexpressed!! Spark your imagination when thinking about natal, transit, solar return, or progression meanings. Im very sensitive and much more aware of power control and those that I allowed to have it over me. Before it entered the 4th I wanted to finally move out of my parents flat and start my independent life at 30!, I am almost 34 now and I am still there. Saturn and the South Node are involved, theres something karmic about it. I always knew what lurked beneath the surface of my family, but I didnt believe it was really as bad as it turned out to be. Well, that would be nice, but have no idea how he will turn up! I felt the beginnings of the transit in spring of 2017 with some poignant dreams. Interesting point Denyse. I live in a land lease community where there are a number of elderly residents among us. But any alignment of stars and planets gives a certain amount of potential and free will to rise above limitation. Anyway, heres the kicker that led me on this investigative quest in the first place. I just posted that the light bulb went on when I did my dwads and woke up to the sextile that my North Node (the dragons head) makes to my IC. I dreamed I was on a ship at anchor in mid ocean: the whales and dolphins leaped for joy! They were both admitted to Broadmoor Hospital where they were held for 11 years. You can see, in both cases, it takes a lot out of a person. In this period of your life, you often have to face challenges and overcome them. Anytime it aspects a natal planet or angle such as your Ascendant, it marks a serious and (quite possibly) a stressful period. Sun in 10th Moon in 4th. Probably will have to invest, and be somewhat insecure about my future. Greetings to all and best wishes for 2023. The only event I can associate with this period was deciding to fold the writers group I started a couple years previous. I finally understood the family politic. This conjunction is not easy to deal with. I will be writing it up in the next month or 2. Let s hope The coming lunar eclipse is a friendly one. It was resolved once Saturn moved into the 5th. Due to chronic illness I have been forced to spend far more time at home than I am comfortable with in the last few years (since transting Pluto entered the 4th in 2010/11. I left home my beloved community by the beach, to get a new house in a more affordable neighborhood in the dry and dusty suburbs that would accommodate my younger sons needs. So I have Uranus, Neptune, Saturn and MC in Capricorn. I have Saturn transiting my IC in Aqua now. So the current Saturn transiting my Capricorn moon means Im mourning those losses, while Pluto conjunct Nadir lets me know something new will eventually be built up if I do the work (Capricorn moon, Venus square Saturn). A book which has been helpful for this transit and all things Saturn is Erin Sullivans Saturn In Transit where she addresses the heroic journey as lived through the transits. I guess mine is a midlife experience! However, it is now taken as a separate and specific aspect. During the average human lifetime, it occurs two-three times. Ask me me@astrolada.com. Jupiter is generally thought to rule higher education but maybe the professors are ruled by Saturn. My Solar Return for 2023 suggests that I might move again the next time I have Saturn conjunct my IC. But I am hopeful that may only apply to the Natal chart 4th. I cant rebuild new Saturn structures on which my Asc will stand, only to repeat the same. First of all, if planets conjunct the IC at a close orb (1-3), the effect will be much stronger than if they are simply in the fourth house. Now Im homeschooling my children which is pretty crazy and not something I ever would have expected. I have progressed saturn conjunct natal saturn (exact 1/12/2013), next april transiting uranus is exact conjuct natal sun (at 14 aries in 6th ) and square mc (14 cancer), and in 2013-16 transiting pluto squaring natal sun and . Just little fixes and sellbut where do I go? Interesting way to look at it! :/, Hi! Tr. We are not yet moved , with Gemini on my 8 th house l live between the delayed building site of a wreck of a house and the one we will sell hopefully soon. Hi Mel. This is not necessarily a negative thing for you but some expectations could be involved here. As Transiting Pluto conjuncts my Venus I am experiencing many changes in my life due to my marriage. So, bad with the good. I apologize ahead of time, Im going to sound super negative but its pretty honest (I am not normally a negative person by the way). The most important thing to take from this transit is to take responsibility, for your past, present, and future. The youthful Gemini look. The South Node in the Natal Chart Ironically this view is made by those without an unaspected planet. We (4H) moved (Mars) for better schools (Gemini) for the kids and we hosted lots of school-related parties. I live in a beautiful yet small 350 sq ft studio underneath my landlords who are nice but loud and it is too small, the ceiling too low. I was too young and screwed up to benefit from the Pluto trine Sun -transit which brought fantastic opportunities. As far as shes concerned her main concern is her horse and corgis. The type of limitations is colored by the sign and aspects of your Saturn and north node. Quite the position for a queen to haveLOL! Reply. Very formative year that set me on a better path. I started my teaching career when Saturn was at the bottom of my chart. The issues before me at this present time are contaminated water via the defense force RAAF base near my home & a compensation case I am involved with because of it. But past efforts will still be rewarded. Only to learn years later that I was on a journey that involved Pluto(chart ruler)-Uranus (at critical 29degrees in natal chart transiting moon sign Aries)-Neptunian(coruler of my North Node with sun NN in the 5th house in Pisces)-Chiron(returning in 2019)-Jupiterian(transiting Gemini my 8th house of death and rebirth). But I had both my children with Saturn in my 4th. This Saturn transit is good to me. It coincided with my first year at a new school. Saturn Conjunct Neptune Natal Whether it's ideas, music, images, mystical insights, or idle imaginings of your mind, you strive to give form to the formless. Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 Im hoping Saturn will come through and help to build a new foundation and sense of home. Hit me like a ton of bricks. Aries moon a pioneering sign that is not afraid to go solo. In June 2012 VenusRx occulted the sun in Gemini 2degrees from my natal sun, in 2019 Mercury occulted the sun in Scorpio and my rising degree was in the Rx zone. Havent thouht about uranus and this one is quite a bad boy. Saturn transits are notoriously tough. My beloved dad also died. I will look into that for you Helen. Transiting Saturn spends about 2.5 years in each house. wow. At the same time, transiting Saturn will conjunct my Neptune, then Jupiter, all while transiting Neptune will conjunct my Sun/Mercury, and Jupiter conjuncting my Saturn and Mars! It generally marks an emotional low. Homesickness wasnt really an issue because my college was in the same part of town as my parents house and I would come back on the weekends. It will be interesting, to say the least, when Saturn and Pluto and the sun meet on January 12, 2020 at 22Cap45 (in my 4th house but on the cusp of my 5th at 23Cap19). My MC is on 29, and I have heard about the critical angleWould such transit a bit different for 29? This is your first Saturn return. The same applies here!! crystallized outer identity. Karmic indeed. They both have many tight aspects to other planets in my chart. Saturn on my IC and moving through the 4th seems to represent the passing of my mother, the re-location of my son and grandchildren,and the disintegration of my inner skeletal structure, in addition to a renovation or moving of my home. It was oppo my natal Moon, mars chiron. Im hopeful, as Jupiter will be coming through in 2020. I always knew my family is no good but this year, after Pluto and Saturn together Im just flipping out!! The tighter is is the more dramatic the year. Saturn still exact on mercury. Transiting Vesta has just opposed (exactly) my natal 12th house Uranus and is almost conjunct my natal Chiron in Aquarius - I've been feeling unusually sensitive to what I view as judgmental exclusionary remarks (voiced via the internet) regarding certain spiritual beliefs I hold dear, but rather than present an alternate viewpoint, I've . Saturns cruising through my 10th house now. Just had Saturn transit 4th, pluto conjunct my natal moon last month and now Pluto is squaring my sun, a few years ago the Taurus opposing my sun, Venus, Mars was rough! Theyre also both having their Saturn return. It can start to seem like your whole existence revolves around the concept of "one step forward, two steps back." Keep in mind that the Saturn conjunct Ascendant aspect transforms greatly after your first Saturn return. ------------------The Declinations GuyExpert birth chart rectificationRising Sign Descriptions , Posts: 1159From: the world is my home! What more will there be? As Saturn transits the 7th house you build relationships and partnerships of all kinds. This. Saturn Conjunct Saturn This is the storied Saturn return, whether you're having it between the ages of 28.5-30, 58-60, or 88-90. This was due to lack of attendance. Pluto, its ruler, is placed in the twelfth house conjunct Mercury, Saturn, Venus, Moon and Sun in Leo. As it is doing this it is squaring my sun, about to square my natal Saturn, moon and north node. It feels as if I went through hell with hope to get to something better on the other side, but ended up up in the same place where it all started. Cant say its been a bag of goodies,a financial betrayal by a family member for one, but good riddance and Truth I can see the benefits with opened eyes & opened heart. ago April 10, 2018 at 9:38 pm. Oh I hope not. The South Node (dragons tail) trines my IC and sextile my MC. I will always have to deal with the seamier side. Now I understand myself through astrology definitely better. As Saturn approached my nadir time ran out on where I was and what I was doing. However, somehow I feel that some themes of the time Pluto was conjunct my Moon, are re-occurring but on a higher level. Remember that big January 2019 eclipse at 0degrees of Leo, which involved the stellium in Capricorn, Pluto Mars Saturn and the works? Homesickness certainly fits. In addition to this, the M.C. I asked the doctor where the osteoporosis is, and he said the left femoral neck! Where did you read that?? After hanging up the phone, my hand immediately picked the phone up again and dialed back. Anne Whittaker has written about the transits of the outer planets to the IC in a moving way. IP: Logged. Pluto came through first 2014-2017. by Tony Howard Mars buddied up with Saturn in Capricorn at the end of March, and almost instantly I started hearing from friends whose charts are triggered by this aspect. So my 2nd Saturn return is beginning along with this 4th house Saturn transit.I have natal Neptune in the 12th square this aspect within a 2 degree orb & natal Venus conjunct the aspect within a 4 degree orb. Three malefics at once in a sensitive point like Nadirguess will be horrible. Like this online, thank you. Interesting but makes me wonder where her Saturn lies. is opposed by a transit that is conjunct with the I.C. All was new, and although i managed to maintain the job I could not find a place I could pay for and call home and problems arised and followed me every time i moved. Depending on other aspects to your Midheaven and any fixed star conjunctions, Saturn conjunct Midheaven can manifest as great achievement and success in your career or loss and disappointment. Thanks, Hi Anne: Saturn Opposite Midheaven Natal and Transit, Saturn Conjunct Midheaven Natal and Transit, New Moon February 20, 2023 New Beginnings, Saturn Opposite Midheaven Natal and Transit. I was settling into my new school and new home and loved the big tree in my garden where I could sway with the wind and see across the valley to the mountain. and am very curious about what the future holdsfor all of us. It can be the start of something new, some new work of sorts. When that natal planet is Sun, Moon, Ascendant, Mercury, Venus, or Mars, we feel the effects in a personal way depending on the planet involved. You suddenly see your persona and appearance as more of a fluid construct than a fixed concept of "you.". Also, the progressed chart moon would be conjunting my progressed IC. YES. Ill be having it in few years. 1. Good things to come? Had to move back home briefly to lick my wounds, but happily moved on to pastures new! Yes, youre right, very hard to see anything positive sometimes. Pluto has transited my N 4th H, and on its way out to Aquarius, will soon square my N Moon. Contact with Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto are felt over longer periods. Is it normal to feel homesick with Saturn approaching the nadir? I have an unexpected mercury in the 3rd house with a Gemini ascendent! Perhaps my expectations as to whats going to happen, are mistaken. Pluto and Saturn SCARE ME. Celine Dion 006, Bernadette Peters 008, Emily Dickson 009, Cecilia Bartoli 012, Gene Wilder 014, Uri Geller 015, Jennifer Gibbons 038, Athol Rusden 039, Madeleine of Scotland 058, John Hurt 102, Elizabeth II 107, Paddy Ashdown 130, Lord Byron 131, Mary MacArthur 146, Oliver Stone 151, Karen Silkwood 154, June Gibbons 156, Rudy Giuliani 236, Jeane Dixon 239, John Frawley 249. Just FYI in case she has a minute to fix them. Others struggle with some heavy family burden. I feel homesick for my ex, his kids, our dog, and the life I had. But luckily neither I nor she is the type that holds on to groudges! Hardness in the way you interact with the outer world. Now I am getting my Saturn square Pluto natal aspect in looking at Saturn transiting the IC opposing natal pluto on the midheaven. I do have Neptune three degrees ahead of Saturn so perhaps Neptune has led the way. I think I experienced it more in relation to Saturn's square to my Asc and opposition to MC: health and work/expectations. I know its in Taurus from the Saturn returns. Thats what Ive done & while draining at times, it has been profitable & also used up the energy so to speak. Two men resembling Jesus and John the baptist were there (they were the previous tenants!note, I am spiritual but not a Christian). When Saturn transits the nadir you may want to go home. Co vid ( Pluto ) delayed everything, no tradesmen, mercury, no wood, no deliveries, would you believe even no scaffolding ( Saturn) . . In retrospect, I feel that I missed these fantastic opportunities even though they were presented right on my lap and for a longer period of time. You may have taken on too much responsibility for a young person. Id like to do it sooner, but for financial reasons I need to wait till 2020 or so. My Solar Return for 2023 suggests that I might move again the next time I have Saturn conjunct my IC. I've been socialising quite a bit and . And since Saturn is a slow moving planet, changes and effects these aspects bring lingers a long time. In a way, dealing with my childhood conditioning, mother and the roles I took and have carried since. The 2020 debunking by Saturn-Uranus square was a second move in a wrong direction. Ah, moon opposite saturn hard to look on the positive side. I still live at home with my parents, since Im single, have no job and its nearly impossible finding rent houses in Stockholm! Posts: 858 I was chastised by my dad for not making more money to afford the dinner. I guess, Im no longer that bothered about transits.. Saturn transiting the nadir is an important transit. If this were the case then it would not be a loss or failure but your experience and achievements would be carried on into a new area of specialization in your career. Gemini sun versatile mental sign that is able to adapt to different situations or search for better alternatives if the current situations arent worth adapting to. P.S. He almost did not get to come back home and had to leave for months not knowing. I see, since a conjunction to your IC means an opposition to your MC how was your public persona and or career affected? Your head might weigh heavily with responsibilities, ambitions, fears, or a combination of all three. Youre right. This time will be especially significant the older you are. When saturn hit my natal saturn, uranus and moon, mars chiron I started to have huge fights with my mother. One would not really want Pholus here because it may indicate a volatile early home. 8th house death and rebirth is not easy. Indeed, that occurred to me too! I dont know, I sincerely feel that Saturn has to do with karma. . You will have some important duties and responsibilities to attend to which may involve one of your parents. I would say the feelingis normal but its not necessarily typical. Ill be having that soon and Im terrified of it. Dwads highlighted aspects that are already there in my natal chart but which remain hidden because astrology systems dont show IC, like they dont show South Node and their aspects. Its a been a lot of hard work since finding astrology, I took myself back to school of self teaching. From the outside, transit Uranus conjunct Ascendant is notably nuts. It was a bittersweet time, from which I have never totally recovered, and I felt my eldest was fine, spending a lot of his time socializing and studying and being independent. It explains a lot, I meant unaspected , the perils of predictive text. I've been back in Brazil for just over 3 weeks and much has happened already, or has it not?! If that eclipse at 0 of Cancer so close to the NN, square my natal NN, counted for something, the full moons in Capricorn and Aquarius have to count for something. Jan 28, 2021 #1 Hello! Why religion is mixed into the seaminess I experience I do not know unless it is just the popular go to excuse. I feel the resolution of my housing situation and the prospective house move are key to my getting handle on how best to move forward with the rest of my life. She just told me today that her landlord is selling the home she and her husband have been renting for 4 years. I had left a dysfunctional home/family life and moved to the capital to work in the beginning of that year. They may be orphaned or unwelcome in their family. Hi, I have Sun at 16 Aries too, with the added joy of Saturn being conjunct at 15. . You're finding out is that you're human. Pauline Shewaga says: May 4, 2011 at 1:32 am. Every 7 years or so, Saturn will transit conjunct, square, or opposite a natal planet. Lily. 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